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    Quote Originally Posted by slice1900 View Post
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    Totally unrelated, but I noticed something else I can't believe I never noticed before. While the 'initial setup' only adds channels in Directv's database, If I follow it up with a "scan for channels", it still does the full OTA scan! It is finding all those subchannels that aren't in Directv's database due to having a TMS ID > 65535. I wonder if that's true on the HR20, or if subsequent firmware upgrades "fixed" that? It even picks up the station names (i.e. COMET or whatever) from PSIP. I also noticed my Fox affiliate has apparently added a fourth subchannel, great!
    Great find!

    For the ancient H20s I guess ...

    The problem is there is no "Scan For Channels" option in the UI for the AM21 hookups to my knowledge.

    Don't know about the HR20 as I've never had one. But I doubt it as well ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by inkahauts View Post
    I believe that is just becasue you are using a h20. It’s the only one left that can do that as far as I know.
    True, but I didn't even realize it still could. Up until its last firmware update in fall 2013 when you did the "initial setup" for OTA it would do a full scan and add all the subchannels. Their final firmware update changed that, but maybe someone forgot to remove the "scan for channels" menu item when they made that other change. That why I was curious about the HR20, it has a built in tuner like the H20 so maybe it still can, but on the other hand it still gets updates so if they intended to remove "scan for channels" but never got another crack at it when they decided to stop updating the H20's firmware they have had plenty of chances.

    I used to think it was a bad thing that they stopped updating the firmware, and there has been one problem - you can't check signal strength on it since 99ca was added to the NIT, except if you disconnect the coax when it boots up to prevent the initial download. But not upgrading firmware means they can't break anything or make it any slower, or as it turns out remove the ability to scan for subchannels. Obviously that menu item has been staring me in the face all this time, but I just never tried it since when I did the initial setup it wouldn't pick them up. Some of the H20s that were set up during the window after my local ABC station added their third subchannel but before that last firmware update could access the 9-3 channel I wanted, but not all of them which was a problem since there were a fair number of Cubs games on that channel.

    Knowing this (and that it works just fine with a DSWM30) makes the H20 better than the H24 as far as I'm concerned, and since I decided to sell my AM21s a couple weeks ago due to worry about Directv making them stop working entirely at some point I might see if I can get a few more H20s and sell my owned H24s. It will come in handy next year since I've been having to use a workaround of switching to the TV's tuner (unencrypted SD QAM) to pick up the Cubs games on 9-3. This way I could get all of them via the Directv receiver. The whole reason I sold the AM21s after baseball season was because I only used them to pick up 9-2, but I figured if we could use the QAM tuner for 9-3 why not also use it for 9-2 and get $175/ea for the AM21s before they possibly become doorstops in the near future.

    While there's a chance Directv orphans the H20 along with all the MPEG2 hardware in 2019, surely by then they'll have a proper client based solution for commercial customers such as myself. All the money I made from the AM21s, and could make from the H24s, would go along way towards paying for five HS17s (or successor) and a horde of clients down the road
    Last edited by slice1900; 10-19-2017 at 06:38 AM.

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    DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for 10/25/2017

    Newly updated tables of channels on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

    Comparison of Transponder Data for 10/25/2017 vs 10/18/2017:

    No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

    Channel (PID) counts:

    Channels (PIDs) National Spot Beam
    Count Change Count Change
    4K Live 2
    HD Live 243 1354 1
    SD MPEG4 Live 10 195 -2
    SD MPEG2 Live 416 980 1
    3D 1
    Audio 85 30

    Channels (PIDs) National Spot Beam
    Count Change Count Change
    Slate 22 6
    Push 34
    4K Test Only 1
    HD Test Only 31 -5 10 1
    SD MPEG4 Test 3 3 1
    SD MPEG2 Test 1

    The PID count Excel workbook provides much more detail.

    More details of changes in individual channels will follow in gct Domestic TPN map and Weekly Update Excel files.

    No major changes
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    Weekly Analysis of the 10/25/2017 Domestic Data


    LOCAL
    Market 103, Lafayette, IN
    RENAME: WNBC, Channel 13, HD and SD, Virtual
    BECOMES: WTHR, Channel 13, HD and SD, NBC Virtual

    Market 139, Omaha, NE
    NEW: *KYNE, Channel 26, in *Test, KYNE PBS move in work from Lincoln to Omaha

    Market 185, Tampa, FL
    ADD: WEDQ, Channel 16, HD and SD PBS

    The attached Analysis Excel has Complete Change Detail

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    DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for 11/01/2017

    Newly updated tables of channels on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

    Comparison of Transponder Data for 11/01/2017 vs 10/25/2017:

    No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

    Changes to the use of defined transponders:
    1 Transponder placed in service:
    Net 10 TID 21 is a National Transponder on D14 (99ca), TPN 22 Beam NAT+PR

    Channel (PID) counts:

    Channels (PIDs) National Spot Beam
    Count Change Count Change
    4K Live 2
    HD Live 244 1 1354
    SD MPEG4 Live 10 195
    SD MPEG2 Live 416 978 -2
    3D 1
    Audio 85 30

    Channels (PIDs) National Spot Beam
    Count Change Count Change
    Slate 22 7
    Push 34
    4K Test Only 1
    HD Test Only 29 9 -1
    SD MPEG4 Test 3 3
    SD MPEG2 Test 1 1

    The PID count Excel workbook provides much more detail.

    More details of changes in individual channels will follow in gct's Domestic TPN Map and Weekly Analysis Excel files soon.
    No Major news
    Some remapping of CONUS/D14 channels that may need further review Will update if significant

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    Weekly Analysis of the 11/1/2017 Domestic Data

    LOCAL
    Market 138, Omaha, NE
    KYNE Channel 26, transition completed

    Market 114, Louisville, KY
    WBKI Channel 34, SD and HD removed

    Market 134, New York, NY
    WNYJ Channel 66, SD removed

    The attached Analysis Excel provides Complete Change Detail
    Last edited by Gary Toma; 11-01-2017 at 08:12 PM.

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    Weekly Analysis of the 11/1/2017 Directv LATIN America (DLA) Data


    Much More Analysis needs to be done


    The attached Analysis Excel provides Complete Change Detail

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    DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for 11/08/2017

    Newly updated tables of channels on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

    Comparison of Transponder Data for 11/08/2017 vs 11/01/2017:

    No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

    Channel (PID) counts:

    Channels (PIDs) National Spot Beam
    Count Change Count Change
    4K Live 2
    HD Live 243 -1 1355 1
    SD MPEG4 Live 10 197 2
    SD MPEG2 Live 414 -2 978
    3D 1
    Audio 85 30

    Channels (PIDs) National Spot Beam
    Count Change Count Change
    Slate 21 7
    Push 34
    4K Test Only 1
    HD Test Only 29 9
    SD MPEG4 Test 3 2 -1
    SD MPEG2 Test 1

    The PID count Excel workbook provides much more detail.

    More details of changes in individual channels will follow in gct's Domestic TPN Map and Weekly Analysis Excel Files. To be posted soon.

    This week's change file is about as small as I've ever seen.
    I think DIRECTV has started Holiday Vacation very early!

    One new LIL in MKT 65 Fairbanks AK is all that caught my eye.
    Happy Holidays!!??
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    Weekly Analysis of the 11/8/2017 Domestic Data

    The attached Analysis Excel provides Complete Change Detail

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    DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for 11/15/2017

    Newly updated tables of channels on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

    Comparison of Transponder Data for 11/15/2017 vs 11/08/2017:

    No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

    Channel (PID) counts:

    Channels (PIDs) National Spot Beam
    Count Change Count Change
    4K Live 2
    HD Live 244 1 1355
    SD MPEG4 Live 10 194 -3
    SD MPEG2 Live 416 2 977 -1
    3D 1
    Audio 85 30

    Channels (PIDs) National Spot Beam
    Count Change Count Change
    Slate 21 7
    Push 34
    4K Test Only 1
    HD Test Only 30 1 10 1
    SD MPEG4 Test 3 3 1
    SD MPEG2 Test 2 1

    The PID count Excel workbook provides much more detail.

    More details of changes in individual channels will follow in gct's Domestic TPN Map and Weekly Update excel files.
    I noted these changes:

    NATIONAL:

    ADD: Channels 81,324 PRIME
    PRIME Shopping Channels

    ADD: Channel 426 *STZES
    Starz Encore Español in *Test

    LIL :

    MKT 50 NET 561 Corpus Christie, TX
    FOX SD and HD KUQI CHANGED to Ch 38 KSCC

    MKT 70 NET 581 Ft Smith, AR
    ADD *TEST *KAFT Ch 13 PBS

    MKT 62 NET 573 Eugene, OR
    REMOVE SD and HD KTVC Ch 36 Independent

    MKT 83 NET 594 Harlingen, TX
    REMOVE SD CW Ch 14 CW

    MKT 120 NET 631 Medford, OR
    REMOVE SD and HD KBLN Ch 30 Independent


    Enjoy
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    Last edited by Gary Toma; 11-15-2017 at 09:01 PM.
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